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Submit to The Musikians' 25th album!

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 No.31041[Reply]

Anyone can answer, regardless of skill level. Share your creative process and your process of realizing a track.

I'm experimenting with writing everything down, step for step. Here's a work of mine in progress right now:
http://pastebin.com/5NvC9nsr

After finishing this, I will start creating melodies and interpret chords from them. Once I have a start, I'll go from there. Most likely it'll be a melody similar to what the bands I've listed as influences make. From there, it will start to lead its own life.

Kudos if you just read that all in Spongebob's yelling voice.
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 No.31075

>>31074
I agree with this in the sense that music that you grow up with and are exposed to shapes the music you write and implies its meaning in melodies or something as simple as a chord or note that recalls it, even just my virtue of having become associated with a note. So yeah, music does not exist in a vacuum, as it's defined by its relation music in general. But I think this is just a fact, and practice will allow you to utilize this better in your music, which doesn't prevent you from still having the attitude of a beginner's mind

 No.31077

I've never recorded anything really, but when I do make music it's usually just me messing around on my acoustic guitar until I find some chord progressions and fills I like, and then I just play around with different structures and variations until all that I'm left with is an avant-garde mess. I'm really pretty ok at the guitar, I'm kind of disappointed it never went anywhere for me. I might get more into finger picking when I have more free time in the future, I think a lot of my problem was that despite having some skill at the practical side of playing, when it came to creating tones and producing I had a tin ear.

>>31045
With poetry I think I can explain your problem. With a poem, there are specific structures and devices that you've used to put the emphasis and emotions where you want them to be. If you want to put that to music, the music has to enhance these emphases or at least compliment them. Otherwise, it's no wonder it doesn't sound right. I think writing lyrics is different to writing poetry, try separating the processes and you may have more success in setting words to music. Think of why the instrumentals behind spoken word songs behave the way that they do.

 No.31080

>>31077
Thanks, I'll take that into account. Although the instances where I can cross my mind through my music in such a way to create lyrics that work in context.

 No.31145

In terms of building a long term foundation of constant quality, one tip is to treat all levels of quality that you are producing the same. I.e you have a shitty song you have been working on for a while, and it's just not up to your standard. You also have one of your best songs where everything seems to come together. To develop a foundation of quality, treat both these with the same level of craftsmanship, I.e spend as much time on the sculpting process for each, which will inevitably bring the low quality output to the high quality output.

Do this for years, eventually they will be the same and you will be consistent.

 No.31156

>get idea for a track, usually from humming a melody i made up, or from improvising at the keyboard
>open up garageband on my phone
>create a section of music based on what i have so far
>decide on what part of the song that section is, i usually know because i have hummed the song a million times at this point
>start building the other parts. oftentimes with vocal works it is easier because the vocals guide the form
>always keep in mind where the song is going and where it has been, this helps with developing ideas
>usually i have ideas for the main sections of music, but the transitional sections and end are a bit tougher, so i have to work harder on these
>get tired of working on the song/decide it is done
>ideally put it into logic pro and pimp it out, but i dont always do this



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 No.31036[Reply]

http://teamrock.com/news/2016-11-02/myles-kennedy-says-day-of-the-megastar-rock-frontman-is-over

What do you think? Have pop and club stars replaced rock stars? Is being a rock star just a wild fantasy now?

 No.31076

I remember someone saying marilyn manson was the last rockstar

 No.31078

tbh I thought that this was already widely accepted



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 No.31028[Reply]

You've probably listened to The Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness before, right?

But have you heard it in it's original vinyl track order?
>Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was intended as a two-record set. The CD and cassette versions of the album are divided into two discs, entitled Dawn to Dusk and Twilight to Starlight. The vinyl version, however, is divided into three records with six sides, entitled Dawn/Tea Time, Dusk/Twilight, and Midnight/Starlight. The vinyl release also features two bonus songs ("Tonite Reprise" and "Infinite Sadness"), and a completely rearranged track order. In 2012 the album was remastered and re-released as a 6 disc edition, with 3 bonus discs of music and a DVD and also on 4 Vinyl LPs which contained the regular CD track order instead of the original LP order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellon_Collie_and_the_Infinite_Sadness


A common complaint about the double LP is that the songs don't really flow with each other (and that there's a lot of filler)- do you think it sounds better in the original track order?

 No.31039

Wait what? I'm going to do this and report back on it... whenever I get the time for it. Badabump.

 No.31099

>>31039
i've only tried it once. It was honestly interesting - there felt like their was less filler in a way as the classics were more spread out in the album, if you know what i mean



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 No.31021[Reply]

Is there an ios music playing app that can replace the stock one? I dont like being forced to integrate apple music which sucks balls

 No.31248

Well, there is spotify and other progs you see top scoring in app store, just because appul stock one sucks massive balls.But really tho, spotify is your best bet, if you're ready to pay 12 bux/month. Don't even think of using it without premium, it won't even let you choose a song(only shuffle)



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 No.31013[Reply]

I'm new to it but all my findings are extremely interesting. Anyways, post some good stuff you've found or made, maybe describe some of the little things you associate with certain tracks.

 No.31025

Here's my noise submissions to The Musikians, from earliest to recent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2C_DORM3Jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOMGtgk85XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wL-noeP8N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiIlTA41nOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJcW1TPaUQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0X8jibomqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dKRfcryF6A

I hardly listen to noise actually... the only noise track I like listening to is Masonna - Beast and whatever Iszoloscope does.

Vid is the track I like most by myself. It was inspired by supernatural horror movies. The track is pure improvisation, it's me exploring chords and harmony. I guess it worked because I had a very strong idea of what I wanted the track to be like. Too bad this all is so behind on my current production and theory level.

 No.31026

>>31025
OP here
You know I really haven't heard all that much noise, but I never imagined it to be so structured and melodic, it's very nice. I was introduced with merzbow, so I'm of the mindset that whatever I make has to be a mess of things that strike certain feelings.
Anyways, I have this and two other tracks on https://soundcloud.com/small-mann. Keep in mind this is theory-less, and I have no improvization abilities because I'm working off of audacity, but I would still like feedback.
You keep doing what you're doing though, I'll probably listen to it.

 No.31030

Maybe check out Boredoms' early stuff, I used to be kind of into noise rock but I can barely even remember what the hell I used to listen to. I dunno if it's straight noise you're looking for, noise is pretty whack anyway

 No.31040

>>31026
Thank you! I'll drop you some elaborated feedback next week.

By the way- I forgot to mention my other favorite noise: Whitehouse. He makes power electronics music and it's beautifully messed up.

 No.31219

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I finally finished my album, it's pretty amateur, but I feel like I've gained a lot of experience. Feel free to check it out, it's free if you actually like it.
https://kleinmann.bandcamp.com/releases



 No.31009[Reply]

patrician music only thread


 No.31007[Reply]

Halloween weekend bros, post your favourite albums to listen to
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 No.31017

I listened to that yesterday, I really like it

 No.31018

I listen to this every halloween

 No.31019

another classic. honestly the composition of this is A++++++++++++

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 No.30993[Reply]

Discuss DAWs, synths and VSTs, ask production questions, help out others, post sample packs and whatever else you think is production related.

Use clyp.it or where ever your audio is uploaded to ask for advice or feedback on a work in progress or finished track.
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 No.31217

Everytime i open Ableton i want to shoot myself in the head it's so boring.

I just wanna twiddle some fuken knobs m8, not point and click

 No.31221

>>31217
Get yourself nice a MIDI controller if you haven't yet. I have a Novation Launchkey 25 and it means the world for me, I'd go insane without it... screw point and clicking.

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 No.31237

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A N G E R Y

 No.31246

This is cool, some insight into an unusual dubstep bass.



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 No.30983[Reply]

To try something new: this is an EDM thread.

Commercial or underground, it's all welcome. This thread is a sort of antithesis of /bleep/. Here, we only care about whatever sounds good to us.

Common genres include:
>Electro house, trap, electro,
>DnB, dub/drum/brostep, glitch hop,
>Prog house, trance, future bass

To start this off: what do you think of the "EDM" term?
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 No.31111

Yea okay this is the last track I'm sharing now lol

 No.31230

woooow

 No.31231

>>31230
That's some good shit

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 No.30977[Reply]

Are you more patrician than /mu/?
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I linked the wrong posts but y'all can figure that out.

 No.31066

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>>31063

Sure, I agree with that. These plebs see this only from a lens that is still foggy, why is it foggy? They have not dedicated large portions of time to diligent practice and cleared the fog and thus are able to see this is actually accurate. Just my opinion, of course.

 No.31068

>>31062
>>31063
All of your notes are belong to us

 No.31069

>>31063
I'm not sure that I agree with you here. In terms of mastery, I agree, but I think that there's a lot of technical knowledge which, when you are a learner, has to be learned as theory. Think of learning a language: you learn a grammar theory, don't understand it. Later, you see examples, hear it being used, and suddenly what you previously understood only technically, now you understand practically. I think this is especially true also in music, where technical knowledge usually precedes actual understanding. Whether or not that can be applied to the extent that the other poster claimed ('oh, just sit in a dark room grinding theory for two years, and you'll be a master') I don't know. Maybe he meant what you meant anyway.

In my opinion, if you think you have two good quarterbacks you probably don't even have one. The amount of time that it takes to master an instrument completely is phenomenal. Composition is a skill in and of itself, I don't think pursuing mastery of every instrument would be for (almost) anyone an effective approach. And, I don't know how long you've been in that room studying theory, but like the other poster said you may want to revise your pentatonic scale.

 No.31071

>>31069

But learning theory first can also hinder you. Think of it like becoming president. You would think spending years in politics might help, but apparently that's not so right now in history. For music it is the same. You shouldn't turn a thing into a craft until it is already a labor of love. When you know what the note A4 means to you, you will be much more likely to pursue a meaning to the other notes. If you memorize your way into the craft, you may not ever love it. Just my two cents. Anyone playing music is a good thing.



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