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Submit to The Musikians' 25th album!

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 No.31298[Reply]

Hello everyone! We've made some changes to how The Musikians work. The old thread has been deleted, since no one submitted music before the deadline.

The wiki, along with our rules and about, have been modified. I highly suggest you to revisit the wiki.

Info & rules for The Musikians (MUST READ BEFORE SUBMITTING):
http://themusikians.wikia.com/wiki/The_Musikians_Wiki

Submit your track in .flac or .wav format here:
http://www.mediafire.com/filedrop/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=fbe0cc900b3c24bf4ee1beb2762ca58d6e28af32321edd955eb669effa4ad5a5

Good luck everyone!
>picture unrelated
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 No.31712

>>31711

fo' real dog, we gon do it, we be getting it on, like donkey kong man, don't sweat, shit will be lit my nigga. Musikians unite, feel the tide rise, riding down the south side.



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 No.31708[Reply]

What music gear would you buy if your budget was unlimited?

 No.31710

Shit, most of my 'gear' would be plugins, so I'll just exclude those.

I'd get:
>2x Genelec 8050B monitors, flush mounted into a wall
>Genelec 7050B subwoofer
>Subpac M2X portable subwoofer
>Korg Minilogue analog synth
>Sennheiser HD800 headphones
>Beyerdynamic DT 1990 headphones
>Audio Technica ATH-E70 in-ear phones
>AKG C 414 XLII mic
>Novation Launchpad Pro
>Schiit Mjolnir 2 headphone amp
>Studiologic SL88 Studio hammer-action + aftertouch MIDI keyboard
>Nektar Impact LX88+ semi-weighted keyboard
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 No.31706[Reply]

What are you working on now?

 No.31707

Working on a track for the musikians and learning this arrangement of La Paloma for guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STYPwhzmmsw



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 No.31704[Reply]

Post ITT after you hear your first Christmas song of the year.

When did you hear it?
Where did you hear it?
What song was it?

 No.31705

>When did you hear it?
Yesterday. November 1st.

>Where did you hear it?

The grocery store in my neighborhood. They usually go full Christmas, but its a little early even for them.

>What song was it?

Mannheim Steamroller - Deck The Halls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn45Uucq-AI



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 No.31623[Reply]

No black metal album compares.

 No.31626

I really like Enslaved's album Frost. Burzum is too ambient for me

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 No.31671

>>31623
Did you like The Ways of Yore?

I did

 No.31703

I like Mayhem tho



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 No.31678[Reply]

Can musikchan answer this question?
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 No.31698

>>31697
>1p = 30t
>60p = 180t
See, here is where you made your mistake. If 1p=30t, 60p=30(60)t, which can be simplified to 1800t

It would take the players 30 hours to play the symphony

 No.31699

>>31698

is this the drone version?

 No.31700

>>31699
Yep. In fact, the relationship between number of players and time taken to play a piece (as in OP's pic) is a more obscure and seemingly absurd advanced music theory principle that is derived from the better know principle that the fewer players in a band the more likely they are to play drone music. Even this seems absurd at first to some plebs, but consider…

>John Cage had both his legs amputated right before writing As Slow As Possible, meaning 3/4 a member of the band

>Bull of Heaven is actually a literal bull, totaling 0 band members
>La Monte Young is actually doll sized
>A lot of kids and infants make drone music

 No.31701

>>31700
verified. 4'33 shows that if you add one person to a totally silent composition that it still takes at least 4'33.

 No.31702

>>31701

I once tried to submit 4'33 to Musikians. It got rejected. Topkek



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 No.31690[Reply]

For those of you who know theory:

Does theory work well in evaluating non-classical genres? Are there some genres it works a lot better for than others? How about classical music, does theory readily apply to ancient music or atonal music? What about some stuff that's really out there, can theory be applied to field recordings or noise music?

 No.31691

>>31690
Yes, music is all about analyzing patterns(mostly used in field recordings and noise, rhythmic). Ancient music uses patterns or frameworks that we now call "modes." and the atonal music requires you to know about harmony and study a lot in regard of the pattern making and harmonic progressions. It's a lie when they tell you that studying music is limiting your imagination, it rather opens you to new stuff the more you study and explore it.

 No.31693

>>31691
>It's a lie when they tell you that studying music is limiting your imagination
Yeah, I agree with this. I just wonder if theory is at all tailored to certain genres better than others. I'm sure you're right that it's applicable to all genres, but maybe there's still some difference in degree.

To that end, I wonder if there are alternative/supplementary theories out there, aside from what would normally be taught as theory, to suit specific purposes

 No.31695

Yes, all music is sound in time. If you are playing any kind of music that has harmonies then you will benefit from music theory. Academic music theory mostly focuses on the classical repertoire, but every genre has its idioms. Studying theory enables you to hear and identify those idioms and also see where they relate so that you may mix them.

>ancient music


there are entire fields of study deidicated to this

>atonal music


probably the most theory heavy music there is

>field recordings


i dont know what this is

>noise music

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 No.31684[Reply]

What do you guys think of plagarism/sampling/quotations/obvious inspiration and so on and so forth (however you want to phrase it)?
Do you think the idea of intellectual property has any relevance to art?

 No.31685

Intellectual properly has all the relevance to art, since it's what protects original artwork. It seems stupid to me how in the world of visual art, you can't even copy minor things, while in music, it used to be common practice to take another's art and use that for your own.

The harsh reality is that in music, using any copyrighted audio is simply theft. And you know what? That's alright. Because a whole new market has arisen around sampling. You can just buy samples, loops, complete vocal kits for tracks and the like. Thus creating more jobs in the music industry. It may have also created a lot of basement producers, but that's fine. With sampling, only creativity can make it truly proper. And that's where brilliant minds will shine.

 No.31686

>>31685

1/2

I get what you mean. As you say, intellectual property does protect artwork, so it serves the practical purpose of creating jobs in the music industry. And this makes it relevant to the way art is made.

However, I think as far as the art itself goes, plagiarism is irrelevant. Like you say, when it comes to sampling (or any of the other things I listed in the OP), there's a possibility to do it well or poorly. Sampling/reference fits the definition for art in every other way I can think of too.

This isn't to excuse shitty bedroom producers. Sampling/reference is done ineffectively a lot of the time, just like anything else in art. But I get that the concern a lot of people have is that it can sometimes be done badly without going noticed just because the source material is good. I'll admit there isn't much justice in rewarding bad artists for albeit effective art.

 No.31687

>>31686

2/2

In a way though, isn't that like anything? I would say things like a high quality instrument, an instrument itself (built and invented by others to make good sounds), a high quality microphone, and a knowledge of theory are similar to "source material." There are also other factors that don't even relate to the sound of an artist's music that could be seen as leading to injustice in the "reward" the artist receives- chance, privilege, personality, etc. Finally, I don't think an artist will get very much critical acclaim if their sound owes too much to its source material, because people can notice that stuff, and the more people who listen the more likely someone will notice.

So, overall, I think it's probably good that artists are paid royalties where they are due. But the concept of intellectual property shouldn't restrict any type of expression. "Where they are due" is where emphasis should be placed, and I think generally, not much is due, especially if not much money is being made off it.

 No.31688

>>31686
>>31687
One other point- not to be anti-capitalism, but consider that if it weren't for capitalism, intellectual property would have NO bearing on art

 No.31694

>>31685
> It seems stupid to me how in the world of visual art, you can't even copy minor things

i am not sure that is true. Appropriation is a longstanding tradition in visual art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriation_(art)

>With sampling, only creativity can make it truly proper. And that's where brilliant minds will shine.


I do agree with this. Whether it is a band playing an arrangement of an existing folk song, or sampling a well known song, but making something new out of it, true creativity it what will make it unique.

>>31687
>I don't think an artist will get very much critical acclaim if their sound owes too much to its source material, because people can notice that stuff, and the more people who listen the more likely someone will notice.

there are plenty of massively popular songs that rely on an entire chorus from a preexisting massively popular song. See Flo Rida - Right Round for just one such example.
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 No.31374[Reply]

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/yerblues/notable-private-press-albums/

Anyone into private press albums? I figure I should start collecting some obscure records and tapes I find at goodwills and wherever, I've been really digging a ton of stuff on this list. What have you heard on the list? What would or wouldn't you recommend?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONIJXHvoynw

"you're so baby" - donnie and joe

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